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Broncos vs. Chiefs 4th Quarter Open Thread

4TH QUARTER

Category Broncos Chiefs
Score 3 7
Rushing Yards
43 car. 206 yards (4.8 ypc) 22 car. 102 yards (4.6 ypc)
Passing Yards
34 146
Total Yards 240 247
3rd Down Conversions 5-14 4-11
T.O.P 28:40 21:37
Turnovers
1 1

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Way to go D !!!!
Got to get some points from this drive.
sorry for dropping the ball there.
No worries, man. You do so much for us here, let me be one of many to say thanks, KK
Apparently Timmy is rubbing off on you today
game was flying by...surprised me too
No worries KK, thanks.
No worries Kapt, thanks for all you do!!!
its cool....

i usually forget to switch anyway

This is the one where we take the lead, I feel it!

Alright, let's do some damage here
its Time to go BRONCOS
31-19 SD over Oak
finally!!!! 4th qtr thread!!!
Enough of the fooling around - play some football now :)
let's keep the option going.
Lets end this now go O
LET'S GO BRONCOS!!!
So is it safe to say playoffs?
Yes, we're going to win.
Our D looks so much better with Bruton playing for Dawkins then Rahime
Agree but makes me sad

I really want Moore to suceed

Without Janokowski the tRaiuders would be crap...
Without McGahee we'd be crap too

Tebow Tebow Tebow, let’s do this Broncos!

For some reason I expect Eminem's Lose Yourself to be playing right now...

maybe a little early…but gotta make it happen

It would help no doubt
OKAY hypothetically speaking who would we rather play in the play offs? Ravens or Steelers? I say ravens they area terrible road team
this is the the first time i have no confidence in tebow
dang the Keep is there on the option
all right guys

touchdown now!

this is looking like the last chiefs game
Keep the freaking ball one time!!
Next time, Tebow keeps the ball on that option.
Has been 3 games since he kept it...

I keep thinking he will….hoping….

McCoy's playcalling is still fantastic
Can't Tebow keep it on the option just once please? They are all biting on the first read.
crap a long 5 we need this bad
johnson going in
Hochstein is down now too?
And Hochstein down now....F
now hochstein oh man
Who's our #3 guard?
Yeah i dont get people defending McCoy

terrible, obvious play calling

Can Timmy play G?
Tebow fake the QB run, throw to TE
if tebow would hand on to that he is running for 30 yards
QBs aren't allowed to run in the NFL.
Who goes in now?
What the F!@#& are we waiting for?????

C’mon McCoy….you’re terrible

We just put ourselves in such a hole when you run on 1st and 2nd down and don’t get anything …..I wonder what this call is, pass and KC is probably waiting on it…

We're going to lose.
Karma?

I hate Karma

My Karma ran over your dogma
I was referring to Tim's earlier karma post
I know. I was just using it as an excuse to make that joke.....
And a good joke it was

but I still hate that damn karma thread. Maybe that karma gave us bad karma (or maybe good) I got confused over the whole thing.

GO BRONCOS!

It's not karma Orton isn't exactly lighting it up either

we’ve just sucked today

yup, thats why johnson doesnt get carries
McGahee has the vision to cut that back at the hash and picks up 5 yards
Yep

I was thinking that too!

that punt went out of bounds on the 45 and the ref made it the 49. Unreal how shitty this ref is. Unreal .

Wow...anemic offense is anemic
Wow really?

McCoy needs to be gone tomorrow morning….Forget the playoffs we’ll get somebody else (assuming we make it)

3 und out - not good
McCoy's playcalling angers Dan Reeves
Pathetic play calling
just a horrible game plan
McCoy has zero confidence in Tebow
Embarrassing offense

It’s sad really

who will have the most 3 and outs?
Fox is betting on the Chargers today
I wanna see you guys defend McCoy there
you know I won't
Some people are...i dont understand
colquitt is doing his job
dang it, here we go again
I don't think mccoy actually watches the game
brit is like reggie miller or ray allen with this punts... IDK how he does it.. its just money
Glad they have Orton
the D has done fine today... so far.

At some point you have to do something different b/c at the end of the day if you lose you lose, but you got to try something at some point

So agree with this.
Maybe we're setting the foundation for the Decker TD catch, a la the first KC game?
Wasting opportunities!!!
Need KO to come through for us.

pick 6 time!!!

I'll take that

We need something

how are the Raiders doing?
Chargers driving again......they're up 12
31-19 Chargers

that was brutal play calling. Gotta try McCoy. No point in making the playoffs if we’ll play this kind of football on offense.

Perhaps he is holding the special plays they got close to his vest FOR the playoffs.
it's just run off tackle, run off tackle, hope it works baby cause I got nothin
Mccoy has to go
It won't happen
  1. rushing offense trumps #1 offense with 3 and outs
Mccoys contract is up.

No reason to keep him.

He has history with Fox

I’m scared to death we keep him, but I think the smart money says we do.

McCoy calling plays like he wants to draft Nick Foles
We need pressure on Orton...where's VonDoom?
I would pay ten bucks just to watch us hit him
Their strategy is to make the other team lose the game....

That only works occasionally.

Three straight runs, down by four, great field position.

Maybe thats acceptable if you are playing with the lead, but down four in the fourth quarter? Makes no sense at all.

this game have not been exactly Favre vs Rodgers…

defense has going to have to do it on there own….

This has not been a shot out between Orton and Tebow.

this conservative sh*t is what Fox is all about. His rep and no one will say it
Thanks Kyle
Methinks someone ran the wrong route

Let’s bring it here Broncos!

i liked the option calls, but Tebow needs to keep it one of those times. the Tebow run or pitch was there.
Orton is looking as bad as Tebow

If it wasn’t apparent earlier, it sure is now.

Denver knows Orton better than Orton knows denver.

how does goodman have a job?
He played pretty good earlier - whatever that's worth
TD here, game over
Goody = fail
Maybe he's planning on be a hero at the end again?
And this maybe Timmy's downfall too.

He has to learn to use all his tools.

That wasn't on Goodman, on Orton making a good throw...
those are throws Tebow needs to make. they've been there.
I give up!

If McCoy isn’t going to let Tebow throw the ball we might as well draft another quarterback.

perhaps that's what some have in mind?

oops not allowed to say that.

We saw himn throw last week and look at the results that is why they don't let him throw
Orton appears to want this game more than Tebow does.
not that is a stupid comment if ever I've read one
You can't really measure this kind of thing.
Probably true though.

Tebow is playing scared.

I'm surprised his "head" lasted this long

knowing one’s bosses don’t really like you

I think you are overreacting.
Orton is willing to try and make the throws...taking risks. Tebow clearly isn't. How could anyone argue that?
WTF? How could you possibly know?
somebody get ORTON come on
Hey, a flag on KC!
KC offense wants this game more
Gotta blitz KO up the middle...they should know this.
we just did and DJ got picked up by midget and just stopped running....
You're right Scotty...Goodman is a gonner next season.

great a Timeout, probably going to need that….

did we really just blow a timeout?

Shouldn’t it be an injury timeout if a player is hurt?

Coaching staff needs to step up and open up the playbook

DJ pulled up like a sissy on that blitz. He blew that, not Goodman

What a surprise.

DJ is an average LB

+1

Overrated too. DJ is a great athlete, but notorious for underachieving.

saw that 100% he shoulda blew midget boy up like a ballon
man I hate those timeouts on defense, one of my many clock management issues I have with fox
I think someone leaked info on the Chargers game
you know the coaches are fully aware of the score...

the players are too.

it is just gut wrenching to watch the play calling! (and goodman)
Goodman gets burned

But… He also gets picks.

if tebows confidence looks bad now,

Its gonna be worse
against the ravens D

Balt is winning....

We’ll play Pit, right?

Tebow needs to throw a TD to get his confidence back
the Buffalo game really screwed him up
Either...

This team has zero talent or this is the worst coaching staff ever assembled!

The former.
both and we all know it

probably a combination of the 2

Lets not forget, this team was 4-12 last year and started 1-4 before a little magic happened.

There are still serious issues on this roster

Naive

To think this is all on McCoy.

right on. You have to trust your quarterback and the coaches don't . They sit in meeting with him and practices we don;t so they must see something lacking that they dpon;t wnat him throwing the ball
strange that Tebow hasn't really attempted a deep pass yet.
Chargers are driving again, already in FG position
Of course the refs call that
Flagrant lead with the head and late
Wow.....WOW

How can they be so flagrant?

another sorry ass call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have got to be kidding me!
What a stupid play ....stupid stupid stupid Rookie
Disagree
Okay, but you'd be wrong
That call REALLY sucked
That penalty flipped Field position. Terrible play
are you kidding me?
I just hate late hit penalties
Probably wouldn't have been a problem if he didn't lead with his helmet.
this

stupid play

His helmet hit the guys arm
It doesn't matter. He lead with his head....
Thats a really bad call
Nope leading with your head is why it was called
I think it was for a late hit
i guess Helmet to Arm contact is illegal

Defense has got to make something happen

Doom sucks in run D

Spoke a little soon haha

most pass rushers are suspect against the run.

the guys that do both….. aren’t in the 4th round (or where ever we got doom) and they go to the HOF

all right, all my allowance money for the guy who hits orton HARD
Sorry but that call is gonna get made almost every time.

defense playing good

Right here Defense!!!!
Defense is telling the refs to go F themselves.
ironic that Orton could lead the game winning drive
Fox gave him numerous chances
They're already winning

troll

missed field goal by the Dolts

how about we win and not get their help

BIG Play by DOOM
it helps that Dumervil's arms are like 10 feet long
oooo....almost a strip.
sd missed fg.....meh
Hahaha we all have seen that screen pass
Break out the old Elway staples...rolling pocket, bootlegs...how hard can it be to watch a little history and repeat it?
there is the ORTON we know

I still take Tebow over Orton

EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE
needed that defensive stop earlier in the drive
Another classic KO throw
all right

we need a touchdown

Here come the late game heroics.
WE are going to win
Oakland is coming back...
Tebow/Orton

Pretty sad when Tebow looks worse than Orton today.

Tebow Time, If Fox lets him
tebow warming up the throwing arm on sideline

wonder why???

Decoy. All he'll do is handoff, or run himself
No excuses now McCoy..gotta call some pass plays.
Which is stronger?

Tebow 4th quarter improved performance of Orton 4th quarter tendency to crash?

Only 1 timeour left.....stupid!
the Chargers are choking
we all know how this ends..

sit back and enjoy the show fellas

did anyone see the chiefs player hands to the face on the broncos punt rusher?
That looked familiar.

Orton felt heat and threw it too fast.

Decker just stopped

Broncos will probably being going into the playoffs because of San Diego not because of anything the ofense is doing on the field today (T-Bonehead included). Next week is going to be ugly. Teams know how to play T-Bonehead and with his bad throws and INTs and Fumbles we are going nowhere other then a lower pick in the draft. Thanks for nothing T-Bonehead.

I wish he would prove me wrong and now is the time to do it, 4 minutes let in the game. Show me please!

what happend to WR?
My wife could throw a better pass
Yes!!!! 1st down
There you go whiners you got your makeup flag
come on ref, PI is better

OMG i thought that was goint to be an interception

Yuck....evn after warming up on the sideline, Tebow threw a wounded duck there
That looked like a punt.
Orton throws a pretty one

doesnt seem to matter

Hey look a call goes our way
DAMN that was ugly
consolation prizes:

A. playoffs even if we lose, i guess
2. still glad we don’t have orton.

Throw the f'ing ball!!!!!!
I mean in general
Would sure be nice to have the extra 3 pts we could've scored before half...
just remember this... we would not be here with Orton
Really? How exactly do you know that?

Kyle Orton never played with a lot of these starters this season. They were out with injuries until after the bye, and Kyle Orton never started after the bye. Statement like this are unfounded and just dumb.

Decker does that all the time...stop and go back on deep routes. Wish I knew what was up there. Miscommunication?
Another f'ing sack
O-line cant block
not for 5 minutes
you're right...

they cant block forever

Tebow look gun shy

throw the fu&**(% ball

Now they call consecutiove pass plays. But tebow can't step it up. Throw it away
Tebow = shicken chit
Oakland driving now...

This could get ugly pretty quick.

2 people in the same route!
best throw all day and he gets it knocked it away!
Gonna need SD for playoffs.
Oak td

Shit going downhill quickly

good pass finally. just great coverage.
He was so tied up
Timmy telegraphed that one
wow.. punting huh??
Denver is punting

What is else new…

Yeah, would you got for it with Tebow?
Or accept the loss? Yes I would.
Should have let Tebow run more. Don't let him pass dont let him rum
Maybe he should rum more
yeah we're punting :(
this has to be the worst play called game I have EVER seen
I think it's better than last week...

Still crap, but at least we threw AND ran on the same drive occasionally.

Bad playcalling and piss poor execution = loss

Trade up and grab a real QB in the draft please!

You wanna list them?
Our receivers are not faster than the DB's
Better hope SD wins now!

John Fox is a joke of a coach. A joke.

Gotta agree

This has been a pathetic gameplan for 3 weeks now.

What a joke of a team
OK

we are banking on the Chargers, bad idea

I’d be okay if we traded Tebow if that trade included John Fox. Our coach is a clown.

I've tried hinting at that and no one bit
There's a reason why his team had a worse record than us last year...
It's really ridiculously embarrassing

The Steelers are laughing right now.

Time for a miracle fumble.
Have faith we will win
Raiders coming back.
This is Tebow's worst game as a pro, this is worst than Buffalo, at least then he was trying to make a play
Man if our defense could score they deserve this win they've played well

John Fox is a joke of a coach. Go for it there you jackwad.

The TV guys said if the Raiders lost this game would mean nothing....

Not true…

Tebow is still on probation and he is not doing what he needs to do.

touchdown Oakland

thanks for nothing

Tebow fans

I want to hear about your hero. Please. Do tell.

he sucked today. feel better now?
I do

He’s horrible. God bless :-)

he played as well as Miller
i'll never understand fans like you
Whose your hero, punk?
Clint is that you?
Never said he was my hero, only that he had more potential than Orton

We have next season to find out.
However, today I found out you are a trollish individual.

oakland is going to come back. they are looking good on offense

hopefully SD offense goes downfield and scores....

Might be our last hope

you just don't get a good feeling about this
It's all Tebows fault
I think the Chargers might be doing this just to torment us
Who wants to root for the Chargers anyway?

If you cant win at home, you don’t deserve the playoffs. I hope Oakland wins now. I am disgusted with this team.

+1

It would be the most embarrassing playoff team ever

Have you met the 1990 SB Broncos?
That team played great all year...Super Bowl they did not.
I meant just the SuperBowl as far as worst performance
Yeah, I just thought every comment on this thread needed exceptional levels of hyperbole

In reality we’ll still do nothing in the playoffs and going 8-8 on the magical streak covers serious issues on this team

they were saying that about the cardinals in 08

Meh. You get it anything can happen.
Wow.....

I never expected the playoffs at the start of the season, certainly not at 1-4. Why so disappointed? How about some reasonable expectations during a playoff season? How aboutn looking at what we improved?
You know what??? I am disappointed in MHR…again…..same old thing every year. Perhaps I need an offseason also.

Tebow taking that sack knocking us out of FG range is a killer now isn't it?
and foxy punting before the half....

We could be u9-7

and Fox going for the punt at the end of the first half

not is prater missed the kick.....
man can someone on the blue team step up and win this game for us?
Playoffs or not

I want McCoy fired at season’s end

Who so you replace him with?
Norv?

Anybody not named McCoy?

Norv Turner if possible
Yeah but then we would get to January and collapse....
Fox loves him
why did he let him go from carolina then?
i want him fired this second
Yep +10000000000000000000000000
Man I hate to say this but....Cmon Phyllis!!!
yeah that doesn't taste very good

McCoy couldn’t be a high school offensive coordinator.

Boy better learn ot pass in the offseason

if he wants a job next year..

Feeling sick right about now
2 things

1. Tebow passes much better out spread empty set. No RB’s. Challenge the depth of theri DB’s

2. No screens? Tebow is an excellent screen passer. Thats a big reason for his early success imo.

Tebow has struggled today no doubt.

I had no idea John Fox was this bad of a coach. This big of a sissy. We’ll never be a good NFL team with this kind of coach. This guy just ruined himself for me with his game plan in the 2nd half. What a joke.

He’s not calling the plays. The defense has improved immensely because of Fox and Allen. We have lots of problems on offense, but it starts with play calling.

Time to think about trading up and drafting a real QB. Elway is smiling right now and thinking I’ve played Timmy Boy and this is what you have………TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for being here all year
Right because QB is the only thing keeping us back from being in the Super Bowl

and so it makes total since to trade picks that we could use to fill other holes, in favor of replacing our 8-5 QB

But Tim is a winner at 7-3 or so you said earlier...
8-5 in his career, 7-3 this season
And yet now you are saying it's not just the QB...I'm very confused by your floppage
It's a confusing argument

If the QB is 8-5 by himself, surely our only hole is a better QB to go 13-3, ergo draft up

You didn't answer my question. Who are we going to trade up to draft Mr. GM?
Apparently this mystery QB
he didn't think that far ahead
No the internet is too slow.
so...

Denver needs a win to get the division and this is the team that shows up? Even with an Oakland loss we don’t deserve to make the playoffs.

I cant believe im sitting here rooting for Philip Rivers.... SUCKS!!!!!
IT ISNT OVER YET
Thank you

No it’s not.

After a full offseason, then i'll make my Tebow judgment
I have made mine already!
regardless of which decision you have made

this shows a side of you you should evaluate. If he is the full opposite next season of what you have decided, your making such a firm decision has done you poor service.

Out of timeouts.............what BS!
Defense is getting me pumped up again

Lets keep the momentum going! We dont stop till the clock says 0:00

1 minute to go...80 yards.

Game over.

Yep.

I said this morning to my friends that we would probably lose this game. We just can’t finish late in the season.

Playing not to lose

And we’re probably going to lose.

Hope Tebow is praying for courage
Nope, blocked punt
Or a touchdown....or a WR to get open by a mile...or the KC defense to lay down...
hOPE HE IS PRAYIONG FOR SOME GOOD PLAYCALLS
Keep repeating that mantra if it makes you feel better, but it isn't just the play calling.

The Bronco’s offense is just sucking it big today.

Please OAK win

And accentuate how we need a new QB

i don't know if i agree.... but i'm not saying you're wrong either.
I willl

He’s wrong….

I’ll never root for us to miss the playoffs just like I’ll never root for a loss in a game.

TOTALLY WRONG
Wow, the Raiders are only down by five

with about 9:30 to go. This is looking pretty bad.

What a waste of an opportunity to shut up his critics and this is what T-Bonehead does?

Enough with the childish namecalling, please.
Point is

This is all/what he asked for. He had failed miserably.

Someone ban this obvious troll.
I've been wondering

if this dude and NWBroncofan are truly fans. I think you just called it. TROLL!

oakland got a safety on a kickoff!
31 – 28 raider ball

Oak just got a safety on a kickoff
crazy play in oakland

raiders safety

I thought KC would

want the yardage for net punting

will McCoy still call run plays?

a nice return would be unbelievable nice…

only change now is a big Royal return

Fox has no courage. We’ll probably run the ball after this punt. then punt on 4th and 3

watch for a fake here
A safety in Oakland now.....sonuva
we've been here before
no safety

SD ball at the one

58 secs nd 84 yds

This game was brutal to watch. Tebow was awful and our coach is a joke.

58 seconds

at least we’ll abandon our retarded gameplan now

say tebow makes an epic comback...

It… means… nothing… to me

Royal has to be one of the worst picks for the broncs ever
Royal has won us multiple games based on returns for TDs

He’s been bad at times but this is a ridiculous statement.

you must not know about M Clarett
lololol Tebow's terrible.
wow, this s just ......wow
why do our WR's always stop running
some things just have no answer
We've never let the passing game get into rhythm. Now we want them to win the game.
That is a serious issue with the offensive strategy
we are just not going to get that call
Simms you idiot they haven't fooled anyone in three weeks
someone gain some separation
All Tebows fault

our WR’s suck

Where is Thomas?

He's just horrible

You got your wish Timmy. A chance

what about comeback routes?
wow. rouging the passer?
YES PERSONAL FOUL
Wow, a flag on the KC defense...
Thats a lame call, they need to let these guys play man.
Yeah they've only looked the other way on about 3 facemasking calls

Just let them play

You're right man the game was fixed by the REFS .

I’m sure they didn’t miss any calls against your team.

I can cite three examples of automatic first down, obvious facemasking calls that were ignored.

You cite some examples of penalties that you saw in the game that weren’t called and get back to me.

LOL

One play was when the Chiefs had McGahee stopped in the backfield and then he broke out for a 5 yard gain, when they showed the replay one of your o-line guys was holding. That’s just one of many i saw during the game that should’ve been called, but I guess that’s just me being biased.

Cavey

perhaps you should evaluate whether it is really a good idea to be over “live” here when KC and Denver play. Lots of opportunity for emotions to fire up.

To me this is just like having a friend over that likes the other team.

Stuff is going to be said and no calls will happen to both teams, if people would only step back from the Rivalry B.S and look at things from both side of the ball. I know MHR can be that way, and like I said a long time ago, I want to change that about sports blogs. I’ve got the balls to come here and listen to people talk shit about my team while still trying to not lose control. All I want in return is a unbiased view, that’s it. I will succeed, because that’s how I roll.

Holy crap they called a roughing the passer

Please Timmy prove me wrong and throw like a QB.

big DROP there
Nice defensive play
I....uh....well...??
CATCH THE BALL DAMNIT
So if you were Tebow...

Would you have any confidence?

He’s been awful, and when he is good his WRs drop the freaking ball.

Just not enough time left...
jeez Tebow underthrows a guy imagine that!
screw you
nice objective point of view

He is just telling the truth

help a brother out guys
So now Tebow is passing and our WRs can't cacth.
Haven't won one on a hail mary yet....

Maybe he’s just coming up with new ways to win games?

game on the line right here

bomb on 4th down..

Decker should have caught that ball.

It bounced right off his hands.

it was willis
Ya, I'm just pissed and used to Decker dropping balls.
typical tebow throw!
Wow....that was just ugly
Guess we gotta hope for a OAK loss
off his back foot
OK, come on San Diego!
please oakland win and put us out of our misery!

why isn’t tebow using his legs anymore?

GO CHARGERS

seriously, I am really pissed right now

Yes!!! TD....

god a need a shower after saying that

Well, that sucks

sigh! we dont deserve to be in the playoff

Told you so. Threw it up or a jump ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't blame tebow for all this.

WR play was pathetic.

He didnt have a good game though
There is more wrong than Tebow I agree

but Tebow looked nothing but horrible today, and is quite clearly nothing more than a gimmick guy at the NFL level. Every pass play looks horrible

five me a break Tebwo sux rocks. He is terrible
Ah...this is the decision you referred to

Well, I have not made a final decision…..but I sure hope to rub this in your face next year.

But give him all the credit when they win...

or so it seems

Basically, only the media does that

another broad brush stroker.

I didn't stroke the broad brush either way...

i dont know he had some open guys and he missed them i think this was tebows worst decision making game yet but hopefully he will improve over the off season if the broncos dont make the playoffs

Awesome job. This team sucks.

Tim dude...

you gotta throw it bro

What a fitting end.

Come on San Diego. We don’t deserve to be in the playoffs but I want in soooo bad!

And that is that - we're done
I'm having nightmares of Nick Foles in Orange and Blue
Let's go Dolts!
not goodgo SD
Thats what happends when you run the ball 95% of the day.
TD chargers

99 yard drive

That Saturday Night skit....

was prophetic…

This is probably the worst I've felt this year, 3 points offense, great job!

McCoy, Fox, Tebow its on you guys

Malcolm Floyd TD ...go Chargers!!!
The defense was fantastic today...

only allow 7 points..

the offense is inexcusable.

Fitting end

to your starting QB NFL career prospects Timmy. You will not finish the game if you play PITT.

We need a QB

Way to end a game. Dammit.

maybe we could use a WR

look at what happened to Ort when bowe went out… maybe should look at the coaching stratigy…. wait till the end and cut our qb loose….not going to work when you don’t have wr’s that cant get open. why not use the te’s, crossing passes….we could go on and on…but I lay just as much blame on the O coach play calling….

I really don't know what to make of how this team played

these last few games. But, Tebow does not seem to see the open short routes, or to make the quick drop off pass. If he could make those quick decisions we would have a much better game.

good call Sean

If he checks down more often, they would have to defend that late in the game. He didn’t, so they only had to defend the WR man to man

I think this is fair Sean

I am hoping an offseason helps.

Tebow deserves an offseason...

I’ve been his biggest fan but I’m shaken right now. Give him a shot with the #1s this offseason and see what he does. The ceiling is so incredibly high we have to do that…..but wow does he look bad right now.

Is he going to learn when to throw the ball away?
agreed Kgrone

very disheartening in his biggest game as a pro and he played scared. Part of it is how he’s asked to be conservative—-the coaches are in his head. But you know what, he laid a big fat egg today and I hope IF we are lucky enough to make the playoffs that he gets his swagger back.

Absolutly disgusting display of football UGH
you disturbed, bro?
Not a single td all game, unreal
Absolutely piss poor

this team, just like our last teams, are pathetic, this team does not deserve to be in the playoffs, end of story

a loss to kyle orton... makes you think...
Whatever....

Orton sucks. He did nothing and their offense only scored 7.

and T-Bonehead did what?

Orton didnt win the game
He didn't lose the game either.
Lol Orton still sucks and will always suck for eternity
Orton is a winner right?
ha not orton is good, but is tebow bad?
yeah like why didn't we give tebow all the reps this preseason and let him start.

why did we waste the first 5 games and preseason

Did that affect his ability to play today?

I don’t want to be in some hate rally at all but Tebow did not look like a winner today. He did not step up today. Today is when we needed him to do just that. So we could take this division. Today is when I wanted to see Tebow lead this team to a win!

KC had one good drive in the first half running the ball. Both teams were awful

If we get in the playoffs...

…we would probably stand a better chance of winning with Quinn in at QB.

I hate the Chargers

but you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do

Ain't that the truth.

I had hoped I’d never have to say this, but GO CHARGERS!

It's like they put a shock collar on Tebow and told him that if he runs for it, they'll electrocute him.
Or if he passes :/
Seven to Three - not much of an over/under
Is that the backup alarm on the mini truck , cause were backing on into the playoffs , week .
Terrible game today

No courage by anyone but the D. Pathetic. Embarrassing.

yeah, i would have liked to see tebow run with the ball more
Lets just get in the playoffs
I still take Tebow over Orton
Definitely. Tebow is bad after what 10 games? Orton's been bad for 6 years.
Orton was not our answer...Tebow decision is still out.

Tebow did enough as a young QB to get a chance over the offseason.

The most unsatisfying possible division crown ever
Sure would have been nice to have that 3 points in the 1st half.....
and the 3 pts on the sack tebow took
We've had to overcome it before. Fox ball.
Tebow is looking for Orton to congratulate him........KO no where around
Orton's a douche...

Not that good, but outplayed Tebow which tells you something.

A douche? LOL...where the hell does this notion come from?
he is a pouting douche
Oh right....that's so silly
When he said he was playing the best football of his career in training camp

before any preseason games. At practice…. practice….. not the game…. practice.

But that doesn't make him a douche...sheesh
Does Orton ining Tebow for someone elses billboard make him a douche?
Sorry I don't understand....

he outplayed him but not by much, he also sucked

Then next week Pittsburgh comes in to Denver

and pushes our shit in

Hooray 2012

Tebow deserves nothing

and neither do these worthless piece of crap coaches, that was not an offensive gameplan it was an f’n joke. Fire them all and start over

Over-reaction much?
not at all,

I’ve followed the Broncos since the 60s and I’m sick of this nonsense

guess not cause you are still here
Tebow was bad today

But I look forward to see what happens with a full off season of work. Lets go Chargers I guess.

Big eye opener for me today. Tebow was pathetic in a must win game and Fox is a sissy with no heart to be a HC.

We may make the playoffs, but seeing Fox and Tebow today makes me very sad about that game because both those two are water and oil.

I’m so disgusted in Fox.

IF we get in

next week will be a bloodbath either way. Pitt or Baltimore? Yeah, it doesn’t matter.

If he would have gone for the FG in the 2nd and Tebow thrown the ball away in the 3rd, that’s 6 points right there. Sad, sad coaching.

And the Fumble....

It was a bad game for sure, Defense stepped up though. Hopefully we make the changes we need to make before next week.

yes....

Some serious problems today….

I’ve been in Tebow’s camp but he has regressed as the games gained more meaning…

Its one thing to catch the league off guard, but when playoffs start to be on the line and teams can get film on you, you still have to show something and Tebow has not.

What’s surprising is he’s regressed as the offensive play calling has gotten more routine.

The two timeouts on the Chiefs second to last drive were unnecessary and poor coaching

To then punt on 4th and 7 with 2 and a half minutes left is criminal. The very best you can hope for (what we got) is the ball in our own redzone with a minute left.

That’s just terrible coaching

I hated the punt with 2:37 to go.

agreed McGeorge

All we had to do is score more than 7 points. Fox needs to eat a shit sandwich for the way he prepared our team not to lose the game—-they were’nt playing to win, and Tebow deserves to pull a chair right next to him and eat some too, the gamer was off horribly today.

He won't. Fox will have his chin up in defense.
Agreed

Pathetic

BUT KC has a really good defense. did you see them against GB. They are very good.
Silver lining....

Please oh please KC….Look how great KO is!!!! Sign him long term!!! He’s your answer!!!!

You know how so many people blame Tim Tebow's lack of success with the Broncos on his lack of reps with the starters?

Could be the same with Kyle Orton and the Chiefs. Be careful what you wish for. Especially if Josh McDaniels signs with the Chiefs as their OC.

KO didn't win with McD either....

I’ll take my chances….
If KC commits to KO I’ll dance a jig….
What have you seen from KO that would make you think reps with starters is the issue? He has the same issues he had for 2 years with us. Bad on 3rd down and bad as he gets closer to the endzone.

GEE.. Orton and McD in KC?

and they say there is no god.

For the Tebow hateres...did Von Miller lose the game? he should have made the tackle on the lone TD run of the game
even if he made the tackle

the defense bailed our offense all game long, the other teams scores.. if your quarterback can’t get you a single point when your running back is playing a great game, well you don’t deserve to win. Not the Defenses fault.

hmmm...

Defense gives up 7 points all day. Sure a shut out would have won it. 6/22/0/1 with a fumble in the red zone is pretty bad.

You're right

How can any QB expect to win when the defense gives up 7 points

ha!
just sayin. Tebow got no help from WRs. a QB needs help from WRs when having a bad day
No help from the refs either.

that missed facemask deep in KC territory may have been the difference between 3 and 7 points.

No.

The entire denver offense lost the game. But Tim Tebow still sucked today.

hahahahahaha...

Least logical argument award goes to….

you

if you do not see the correlation.

With that Kuper injury and those refs this was one of those bitter games win or lose
Let's make sure we don't let Tebow throw

until everyone in the world knows he has to. I’m so fed up with McCoy.

only the Raiders can screw it up

Not sure I’d call that Orton’s revenge. I think he just hurt his UFA stock with that game. May have lost money with his so-so effort

There's no revenge....

He still sucks ass and wont do anything in this league. he’s a placeholder and an expensive one.

I agree.

If anything I think they know now that Orton isn’t the answer.

3 points at home and thats set up by a muffed punt. pathetic
please draft a QB
why, so he can just hand off all game? Lame, waste of a pick, or picks if they traded up
because they would let him throw.
Fox is a ruuning, ground game coach that everyone was excited about. Gag me.
I see them drafting a RB before a QB. Actually I hope they do

Best season for Delhomme was 3884 yards and 29 TD (team went 7-9)

Please draft a coach
Please draft a coach
Any word on Kuper?

Tebow had a bad game, but IMO the play calling and coaching in general cost you guys that game. I also think the Chiefs got a good enough look to see that Orton isn’t the answer either.

I think he busted his ankle...looked horrid
After 3 games???
Yeah

Same old shit different QB.

only 3 games in KC, dear

He has a much longer track record to look at.

Please don't call me dear...

it’s condescending. Thank you.

And to your point.

It’s 3 games with a new team, different coach, different offense so and so forth.

Ankle i think but don't know for sure...
It looked like his foot was hanging off, man that was bad.

I hope it not as bad as I thought.

Looked almost as disgusting as Thiesman break ....

I look for Elway to try and be creative in the draft, and try to trade up and get a QB.

I look for you to find a new team.
Oh come on now. Why all the "get off my team" if

there is a thought about getting a different QB. Come on now

the idea of giving away so many picks is stupid when there are so many holes

What? I was guessing what Elway would do, not necessarily what I would do.

yeah thats right, blow a whole draft for a guy that will just hand the ball off
He's saying Elway would do that, not him
it would be stupid on Elway's part
for the first time, i'm a tebow detractor

he looked terrible. i won’t write him off yet, but…

McCoy is just like a coach with training wheels

We lost because we have a gutless coach .

or not a coach at all....pretty obvious what we were going to do.

didn’t adjust at any point in the game until the end and then you want your qb to win it for you with long passes only…..good stratigy…bet it will be the same in the playoffs too…I really hope we are looking at getting a new O coach ..that is the first pick going into next year. Period

we lost...

…because we had a quarterback who couldn’t put the ball within 5 yards of a receiver AND we have a coaching staff who calls the same crap hoping for different results.

Raiders don't seem to be playing with that much urgency.

Down 2 scores with 5 minutes left.

Guys the refs are really struggling finding a equilibrium with this over-analyzing by goodell. Anyone watching the Bengals knows what i mean.
I hope you arent referring tothe 3 blatant facemask calls they missed today....

Town of them against the QB….where they are cslling even love taps to the helmet all season lng????

You know what. I don't want to get in the playoffs this way.

This team isn’t going anywhere and a blind ref can see it. We really need a solid offseason of FA signings, drafting, and player development (we have a lot of young guys who need work that didn’t get it this past offseason) as well as a new OC and staff.

I agree, I really don't want to watch any more of that.
So don't watch next week. See you next year.
Thankfully, I'm working that day.
So don't watch..

Me, I don’t expect a win, but I still get to watch the players and get more information while supporting my team.
Who the hell thought we were playoff ready at 1-4, anyway. Man up, guy, and learn to handle disappointment without losing all perspective.

does tebow even deserve an offseason after this game?

I wanna defend this kid. I hope hes the future, but that was one of the worse games i have ever witnessed by a quarterback.

I think hes' still on trial...

and did not help himself today.

Tebow...

is less than worthless as a QB. He can’t.wont throw the ball an dhas no accuracy when he does. The D gave them a chance, but TEBOW simply does not measure up to the task., Denver needs to draft and sdevelop a QB.

The playcalling needs to benefit his growth as a pocket passer, but it doesn’t.

Long outs and seams in lieu of slants and screens to get into a rhythm, only hurt is ability to grow as a passer. He’s a better passer out of the pocket (mostly), but if they want him to develop, they have to give him some easy dinks and dunks to get things rolling.

I actually agree with this

I’m tired of every pass play being a three step drop, hopeless look downfield, scramble every which way before throwing a lame duck offbalance

Never even batted an eye

during the win streak.

I dont think anyone is writing Tebow off, but you still have to do it.

My big thing was all the analysts were expecting Tebow to be a Drew Brees.

But I expect him to match Dalton and Newton and he is clearly not doing that when it matters most.

But that is only because the

it’s all the coaching and playcalling..

It’s a combo of the two.

Tebow Pros:

Legs
Ability to innovate when plays break down
Durability

Tebow Cons:

Holds the ball too long
Doesn’t throw a pretty ball … underthrows a lot of passes.
Still needs development in reading defenses.

Tebow Cons

chiefly McCoy

Brees was benched 4 or 5 timesearly in his career LOL
then traded after 4 years I think
interesting observation

I had forgotten that. Nobody should be all in or all out on Tebow yet.

raiders pick!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Antoine Cason

Bronco hero!

palmer int

looks like the ole’ back door for denver.

Tebow, you almost tricked me!

I was starting to come around but the last three weeks have solidified my original position. It sure was fun for a bit.

+ 1
DOes this mean you won't join the bandwagaen if yhe improves over the offseason?
not as fast a typist as I envisioned.
I have never seen a game at any level where the receivers got less separation.

Tenor had nowhere to go the whole game

I saw plenty of open receivers today

Tebow looked scared to make a mistake

It's different to being at college

He isn’t going to get guys in 4 metres of space

sorry, there were receivers open, but not in crunch time
AFC Champ Broncos, bahumbug
And Palmer throws a pick...

Like it or not we’re going to the playoffs!!

Like it....

Could be happier, but we were 4-12 last year…..
I’d rather win our way in, but playoffs >>> no-playoffs

Love it! What you think?

Another McCoy loss. Also I’m tired of the referee hose jobs.

You really want to bacjk into th ePayoffs?
Yes, the playoffs are good no matter how you get there.
it's better than the bleeping BC$

where unbeaten teams often don’t get a chance

Palmer is picked off

hooray, sorry, I can’t muster much enthusiasm right now, I just like to control my own fate, I’m funny that way

yup, losing 3 in a row to end the season, then getting playoffs feels like the horse's ass prize
Palmer Picked

GO CHARGERS (that feels yucky to say)

I’m happy if we get into the playoffs, but man was today’s game brutal on my opinion of our QB and our HC. I never liked McCoy, but now I hate Fox.

Tebow has regressed badly.

Tebow had a terrible game, but it's the entire offense that is bad, from coach to OL (injuries not helping) to WRs who can't get open and can't catch.

Lots of changes need to be made. Tebow has to get better, but he has a lot of upside and would no doubt be more successful with a top WR/TE.

Breaking News: Source: #Broncos G Chris Kuper has a broken ankle.
not surprised......ugh.
All were Zone REad plays
No we're not Marv. We're really not.
Orton gets his payback and Tebow and Broncos in the playoffs...

Everyone wins!!! Except the Raiders… Hopefully

I guess I really shouldn't care how we get there

NFL is still better than the BC$ even if you are 8-8!

Entire O, My arse.

McGahee ran his legs off, and the Oline did the best they cpuldw ith all the injuries.

I agree. This lose was entirely on Tebow and Fox. Those are the only two duds. And Royal, because he doesn’t play hard on offense.

I would say it’s on McCoy, Tebow, and the WR’s. Fox’s defense held KC to seven points, that should almost always win a game.

You can’t expect a passing game to get in a rhythm when you only open up the offense with five minutes to go in the 4th quarter.

Dennis Allen's defense
agreed.

Denver plays Pittsburg in Denver right?

yes

I hate the Steelers

Everyone who has a brain cell should hate the Stealers.

I can't argue with this
Hide yo kids....Hide yo wives...

Bathroom Ben is coming to town!!!

hide your KIDS?

you mean he rapes little boys too, what a scumbag

google it if you haven't seen the video (minus the bathroom ben part)

In the end, I don’t care so much if we won or lost.

But Tebow had serious problems today. I have no love for McCoy either, but Tebow was at his worst today.

Not a single good throw.

As the games have increased in expectation, Tebow’s play has worsened.

I generally agree except for the dropped pass by Willis, that is not acceptable for an NFL wideout.

except there was a KC hand between his hand
Exactly
Please, watch the replays one more time.

Willis had moved nicely to put his body between the ball and the defender, the hand from the defender really did not push the ball out or hit it. Willis had his hands slightly crossed, especially the right hand, so was not positioned to catch it, and then closed them slightly early. Willis then goes to the ground already putting his hands on his helmet as a gesture of frustration with himself. I would not cut the kid for it, but I believe even Willis would say it was on himself.

Throws to Decker and Willis were good throws.

Yes Tebow had a bad game

the entire offense had a bad game, outside of McGahee. Wr’s had no seperation, OL didnt give Tebow much time, Tebow wasnt good seemed hesitant after last week, coaching was terrible

Disagree on the OL pass blocking...

Tebow held on to the ball for a LONG time on several plays.

Thanks for making my point.

He can’t throw the damm ball, That makes him worthless

Tell me where the open WR was?
Issues there also...

But you have to throw it….

Most worthless thing I ever see

is the way some people say nothing until they see something that correlates with a decision that had been made made way too early and stated with way too much authority. Even now, it is too early for such statements, either direction. Why do I continue to read this crap? I guess it is my fault for doing so.

Gotta love Norv as an OC

Double reverse on 2nd and long

We're going to the playoffs!!!!!!

On a 3 game losing streak. I don’t feel all that happy about it.

But we're going
Then its time to start another 3 game winning streak ain't it!
better than hearing about another post-season missed.

Even if we get creamed.

there is no QB in the draft that we should gamble with outside of Luck and RG3.
Their are a lot of really good QB's in this years draft.
but they are just as much a gamble as staying with Tebow.
Tebow now has what, 12, 13 starts...

Less of a gamble with him, you start to see what you are going to get.

go with Tannehill or Jones? i'd rather give Tebow a shot after a full offseason.
Who said Tebow doesnt get another shot?

Just saying drafting a QB would be wise since their are so many good ones. Tebow will almost certainly start next season.

No doubt he gets a shot,

but he is also going to face competition.

dont necessarily need to draft one....

Free Agents…

who?
Back up QB for Green Bay. Free Angent
Nice day the did had, wasn't it?
I'll tell you what happened. The Bills game hurt Tebows confidence.

He was making those throws earlier in the season after that game he got conservative. Its like a boxer get knocked out cold sometimes it takes a few fights to get his confidence back sometimes he isnt the same again.

Bi true.

NE fgame

Lack of confidence from his coaching staff doesn't help
you nailed it

When they dont let you throw it on 3rd and long early in the game. call 2 QB draws. What kind of confidence can you have?

I think it was the expectations...

once the broncos were in the playoff picture, the magic faded.

difference between Raiders and Broncos home games is our fans don't leave the game with 2 minutes left on the clock.
the warden from Alcatraz

was sending out the ghetto bird!

Hey buttholes...By!
McGahee and Johnson need to be #1 and #2 in playoffs

Balls style is too much like McGahee and Johnson brings a diff skillset to have to defend. And sign Terrell Owens for the playoffs!!!….j/k sort of

sign T.O. we need some help at WR
After all of the failures of recent years

I’ll take going into the playoffs anyway we can get it. This is a team that is rebuilding and making the playoffs will be a great achievement. Yes, there is a lot of work needed with this team especially on offense but it’s not as if we didn’t know that already.

Game over in San Diego with that off sides.

Yay the Chargers will win

now we get to see the Broncos have another game just like this one.

A chance to win it in the final minute?

I’d take that in a heartbeat.

AFC WEST CHAMPS!!!
Woo woo WOO-WOO!!!
I've followed the Broncos from the UK every year since 2001 (Griese's last year)

In those 11 seasons we have won the division twice in that time. If you ranked the Broncos teams by season, I have a hard time saying the 2011 AFC West Champions Broncos are in the top 5 of any of those teams.

Reversed into the playoffs in a terrible division

I am tebowing right now

Please Lord, deliver unto us a QB who can throw and make decisions in the pocket.

I kept saying, remember that 6-0 streak a couple of years ago? People get drunk on the kool aid too soon, meanwhile defenses around the league are figuring out the smoke and mirrors.

So, maybe we make the playoffs. Maybe we host PITT, maybe BAL. And maybe we lose 36-3, with 39 passing yards.

What an “exciting loss”.

But it’s better than the raiders making the playoffs

Another chance to see our D improve. You say a lot of good play from our D today from several players.

^^^^^ Look here
Tebow now is better than having given up our future draft picks for Palmer.

Oakland gambled trying to save a season with promise…came up a bit short, I would say.

Tebow sucks got to get a quarterback
You suck, go root for someone else
We may have backed in, but we were 1-4 when Tebow started, his wins are what got us in
We may have backed in, but we were 1-4 when Tebow started, his wins are what got us in
Your words are hurtful...And I'll not be taking the bus to the church social tomorrow!

Won’t be one available at #20. Probably take one in round 2 or 3. Which sucks since we need some help at MLB, DT and CB. And maybe OG with Kuper suffering the worst leg injury I’ve ever seen.

Crap....we do have to draft or sign FA more for Oline now, don't we.

ugh….one less option for other position improvements

AFC Worst Chumps....err Champs! WOOOO HOOOO

The best part of this is that Oakland traded away a 1st round pick not to make the playoffs. That will be a fairly high pick they trade away for nothing. And no 2nd rounder in 2013 either. Ha ha Faider fans.

^ THIS

Your boy Bowe did quit on your guys. Never thought Orton could win that game and hurt his UFA stock at the same time.

I also called Thomas Jones quiting and he was horrible. Your D did play hard though.

Bowe got hurt and was ballin' before that.

T.Jones didn’t quit he never got started because he just plain sucks period, so wrong again. If I was to base my opinion towards your team using that type of mentality, half the team quit, which I know is a bunch of B.S.

Lewis has been progressing he could be real good. Arenas is excellent loved him in college hope he is okay.

Orton sucks so bad as does all your RB’s. McCluster could be deadly in Belicheks team but not yours.

Tebow looked scared to make a mistake today

I’m not saying our receivers were great but they were able to get some separation today. Tebow just looked scared to make any tough throws and you gotta be able to make those throws in the NFL.

Tebow looked like someone told him God was dead.

That or he finally found a woman who is already messing with his head.

Maybe there is an odd love triangle between he, Decker, and that country chick, lol
1-4 when he took over, and now we're in the playoffs!
I'm not hating on him but he looked scared today

I still believe we should give him an offseason

I'm disappointed with Tebow's play, but isn't everyone forgetting how young he is? He's done enough to be worked with as the starter in the off season.
how young is newton???
You think they'll trade Newton for Tebow? Most QBs don't play their best in their first season, particularly with no offseason.

Newton lost 45-17 today.

Newtons not in the playoffs
Newton gave up 45 points?

What a loser! Tebow only gave up 7!

tebow personally caused fumbles and forced opposing kickers to miss in OT

Way to miss the point, everyone.

I would rather have Cam Newton, but I was just trying to point out the growing pains with any young QB.

Which Playoff game is Newton playing in?
Serious? The Donkos give up about 10 draft spots to embarrass their fans.

John Fox go far away and take McCoy with you!

We better not retain mccoy after this season
We got to the playoffs with Tebow. Wouldn't be here with Orton as our QB. #FACT
this is true...

If the defense played the same way they did during the streak, the broncos would probably have home field advantage

with orton that is

Yes, because Orton looked so good in tonights game

I’m not saying that Tebow played well the last two games because he didn’t. But Orton has shown time and time again that when the game is on the line in the fourth quarter he wilts under the pressure. There’s no way we’re in the playoffs with Orton as our QB.

Kinda like Tebow has been doing in the fourth?

If the defense played as well with Orton, they would have a large enough lead to the point where he wouldn’t have a chance to blow it in the fourth

But what has Orton done in the last three games for the Chiefs?

They’ve scored 19, 13 and 7 points. Orton is good for field goals and nothing else. Without the Chiefs defense stepping up big time they would have lost all three games.

Just like with tebow right?

Isn’t that the entire point? Tebow hasn’t done shit during the streak but tried his best to play as bad as possible at QB.

All the while Orton is playing for an entirely new team. Who looked more comfortable leading the Broncos, Orton last year or Tebow this year?

Tebow is a second year player without a full preseason due to the lockout

Kyle Orton is an experienced veteran quarterback. Of course he looks more comfortable than Tebow.

But despite how bad Tebow has looked at times he has shown tremendous leadership and will to win. In a close game with Tebow at the healm I never believed that we were out of the game when I always felt that way with Orton at QB. Tebow provides an X factor that Orton never had. Maybe time will show that Tebow isn’t the answer. Despite this I’d sooner try Tebow than Orton because Orton has proved to me that he will never be the answer.

That doesn’t mean anything. Cam, Ponder, Dalton are rookies and yet look better than Tebow. All of them have shown leadership and yet they have shown the ability to look like legitimate QB’s

and yet some of the other younger QB's that aren't rookies regressed this year

Bradford, McCoy, Sanchez, Freeman. Flacco and Ryan started slowly as well. Ponder has not looked good this year, except against us.

Ponder?

Then why are people asking questions about whether Webb should be the starting QB in Minnesota? Not to mention that he was more of a pocket passer to start with. Dalton has looked good but then he’s another pocket passer. The only comparison that is fair is Cam Newton and his arm is far better than Tebows and his throwing action needed far less work. You also have to remember that Tebow was always going to be a work in progress due to his throwing motion and run first style at college.

Anyway I’m not comparing Tebow to those QBs. I’m comparing him to Orton who is still merely average after several years in the league. We already know his ceiling, not very high. Tebow could be capable of much more than that. Only time will tell. I at least think that we ought to find out what he is capable of.

Orton had his chance in Denver....

BLEW IT BAD.
Wish him luck in the future, but would not change my mind about how he did here….and I was one that was supporting him.

I hope Big Ben’s ankle prevents him from having a good game because I don’t think that the offense has it in them. The Steelers will too crowd the line and make T-Bonehead win the game with his arm-UGLY.

I do miss the class that MHR used to represent.
Me too, idahobronc.
The Steelers are going to smash us so bad

my asshole will hurt

Meh they're looking pretty mortal lately.

Our D will keep us in the game but this offense is so horribly ineffective right now it makes me sick.

Steelers often play down to their competition. Witness today vs. Browns.

You guys make me sick, not all of you

We’re in the playoffs. That shitty QB we have helped us get in the playoffs. This same KC D stopped Aaron Rodgers.

But we’re AFC WEST CHAMPS. Let’s all stop bitching and celebrate. We’re in the dance.

love you man

i agree. i’m now more doubtful about tebow than ever, but i agree with this

Oh Well, keep building!

We'll be building on the foundation that the builders rejected!
Fact is we are in the playoffs despite Kyle Orton being responsible for 5 losses in 6 games

Safeties seemed to step up today, maybe Von Miller can somehow get that cast thinner for the playoffs.

KO was not responsible for the loss today....

Our D gave up one big run for a TD and that was it……

Fox played like a neutered pup and punted before half, and then Tebow took a sack to push us out of FG range in the 2nd half. 6 potential points right there.

KO did what he did for us. A little bit of nothing.

Kyle tried his best to loose this game too...

But the Donkos would have nothing to do with it.

Totally Embarrassed

Unbelievable to watch our offense not able to score and the play calling plus the officiating
stunk up mile high! You guys ROCK but our team does NOT deserve to go anywhere but home with their tail between their legs!

St. Tebow

Is the reason why we will make the playoffs.

I believe!!! Beat the Steelers!!!

yup.

Had a tough few games, but that happens with a young QB

no, the defense if the reason the broncos will make the defense.

Tebow tried his best to prevent that

haha

Ok, do we make the playoffs with Quinn? No, sir.

GO BRONCOS!!!

in the playoffs, hooray!

maybe let Tebow be Tebow?

Over the past few weeks it’s obvious he is trying to become more of a passing QB and stay in the pocket longer…….with bad results.

Hopefully the coaching staff abandons that for this year (revisit next season) and tells Tebow “If you feel just even a tiny bit antsy, just RUN it, RUN Forrest Run! We’ll work on passing from the pocket next year.”

What about his fumble when he did run>
Exactly. The more he tries to be a "typical" passer the less confidence he appears to have.
Coaches lost this game for us. They coached to

not lose instead of coaching to win. Never has there been a better example of that phrase than in this game. For the first time this year I saw TT suffering from lack of confidence and I place that squarely on Fox and McCoy’s shoulder. Gotta turn him loose earlier and with a O plan that allows him to aggressively use his skills. I’ve totally lost any confidence in Fox to be the guy to win a SB at any time with us after watching how he coached and game planned. Glad we’re in the playoffs, but we head in with a QB whose confidence is shot… thank you Fox.

As bad as our game was, I'd hate to be a Raiders fan right now.

Exactly.

They had this division in their hands, and played like crap down the stretch, too.

and gave up their future to do it
Yeah but the Raiders had 0 expectations...

for success this season.

did the Broncos?
I think more than the Raiders

We drafted Tebow which created about 10000000 times the expectations then before we drafted him.

After last seasons debacle

I had no expectations personally, I accept it may be different for others though

NOT TRUE

They made the trade for Carson trying to save the expectations. How can you suggest they had none?

They didn't have Carson to start the season IIRC
And that may have been more of a move for next season.

Also, why are you yelling at me?

and the stupidity continues
and, btw, tim lynch

love your writing, but the karma thing was terrible. orton didn’t do sheeite to win.

It's a brand new season! Wooo Hooo

As for playcalling I didn't like that everytime we threw it was deep

I really wished we would’ve tried to throw short more but considering how poor our passing game was today can you really blame them for calling nothing but running plays today.

Outlet passes, quick screens, slants

they must not be in McCoys vocabulary

Exactly, McCoy has no imagination. Where are our TEs? Why don't we see them involved more? You want to open up the downfield

stuff? hit some TEs on some short stuff and bring those safeties up. Game planning and game time adjustments are killing us all year.

4-12 to 8-8 and the playoffs

Give him an offseason and a real QB coach as well as an OC who actually belongs in the NFL. Then see where he is after OTAs and TC. Can’t ignore the upside despite the last 3 weeks.

Upside really?

Yes

even a backup QB in GB can have a great game when weapons and a good offensive design are provided.
….why do I bother?

then get Timmy some weapons

Next year could be THE year.

WE ARE AFC WEST CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

feels damn good, doesn't it?
It should and yet it doesn't

Tebow has another opportunity to proveall o his critics wrong next week. It is all on him to put up or shut up,

Well I’m still going to watch next week guys. Glad to be in the playoffs, even if it was the back door way.

exactly - its been too long a wait
some prefer entry through the back door
To quote Rocky Balboa,

ABSOLUTELY!

I will be watching McG, but not sure if I will be at MHR

I wish there was a way I could screen out all the comments from adolescent-like fans that cannot handle anything except winning.

So who does Denver play in the first round?

Is it still Pittsburgh?

Steeler I think
Pittsburgh @ Denver.

That’s going to be an ugly, ugly game

If McCoy isn't fired there should be an investigation

In all my years of being a Bronco fan I have never seen a more lackluster, phone it in effort since…the last time we did this a couple of years ago. What is it with this team? They use their worst effort, from coaching to players on done, on the most important day. I read Woody’s article this morning harkening back to the 77 team and how on this day 34 years ago they put together an incredible performance. I remember that game and he is right and this team is no where near there. They make the playoffs but who cares. If Mcoy doesn’t change how he game plans next week will be a debacle.

Who wants to go Troll the Raiders blog?
Two States Away , born and raised in Denver

Never such a pathetic play calling poorly coached game in my entire life. What were you guys watching????

It was an all around poor effort
Hey Goodman had a nice day today
good point - and generally the D was pretty good. Good ST's too.

We have a fighting chance next week.

No we don;t not without an offense that can produce a singel td per game.

The D and McGahee did good. Other then that no

I Don't Think The Broncos Should Use A Draft Pick On A QB

The Broncos have many other holes to fill before using a pick on a QB. I say continue to build up the defense through the draft and keep Tebow because I think he deserves a shot to improve during a full offseason. However, I think it would be wise to bring in a veteran or even keep Brady Quinn in case he doesn’t improve from the pocket.

Keeping Brady Quinn is never the answer
+ 1 we have bigger priorities

CB, S, DT, MLB, G/C, WR for starters

Jake the snake Plummer probably has a couple of plays left in him.:)
Make it so. LOVED Plummer
Whatcha think, 20 dogs at home next week against Pittsburgh

can’t wait to see the opening line

20 pt underdogs I mean
At least Tebow can improve and is humble and has work ethic to be better.
But he needs to improve faster........

We need him to be able to throw the ball more efficiently ……

And I think an offseason to develop and train will do really good for him, but if he doesn’t show any improvement then will be a see ya…….

Sorry to say,

being humble and having work ethic means nothing without the skill to go along with it. Besides, I’m not so sure Tim Tebow is as humble as he makes himself out to be. But if he is, maybe that’s a problem. NFL football isn’t a humble sport.

Our Receivers were covered the entire game

Do you guys see a way to fix this??

yea, use more than 1 receiver or 2 in the patterns
this^^^^^

may have to use some movement (such as play action from under center as he rolls out to his left) to buy some time, but we need more receivers breaking open due to the design of the play. Right now, that is not happening.

Short slants, screens, outlet passes, TE drag routes — plays in the 4-8 yard range.

Hmmm

Name me 1 other QB in the last 10 years who went 6-22 60 yards.

Receivers covered. C’mon. Crap. All other QB’s find a way. 1 inch o separation is open in NFL. This isn’t the SEC

+1
name one with as inexperienced a crop of receivers in an offense called like this.
Tebow / Orton

We’ce said for weeks it’s all about the wins. Well. Orton won. Tebow didn’t. Can’t change course now. Right?

Orton scored 7 points early and relied on his defense to finish the job.

Tebow has managed to pull improbable victory after improbable victory out of the fire. Whilst he’sstill a work in progress, he’s made great strides this season. With better receivers and a full offseason I expect to see even better next season. He at least has earned the opportunity.

Tebow has managed to pull improbable victory after improbable victory out of the fire

because the defense kept it close right?

Did Tebow cause the fumble in chicago?

Tebow enticed Marion Barber out of bounds, I saw this
he showed some leg.
Of course it's because the defense kept it close.

But it still takes the QB to lead that game tying/winning drive. When Orton had those opportunities he failed again and again. Tebow has that will to win that Orton lacks. Maybe in the long run Tebow wont be the answer. But I’m fully convinced that Orton will never be anything but a mediocre quarterback who is unable to come through when it matters.

This is reasonable
He might have the will to win

but if he keeps taking unnecessary sacks, throwing up ducks and not making throws when he should, that will won’t matter one little bit.

I do agree with that.

I just think that he did enough this season to get a chance to start next season. If at the end of next season he still looks the same then I would agree that we need to look elsewhere. It’s just that players with that will to win and ability to perform in the clutch don’t come along all that often. I’d hate for us to give up on him before he’s had enough time to fully develop as a player.

I'll use the same arguments the critics used on Tebow...

Orton didn’t win, the Chiefs defense won.

That's right.

The problem is, when Tim Tebow wins that way, mostly because of the defense, it’s still all about “Tebow just wins”. The standards are somehow different when it comes to Tim Tebow.

that's BS. Everyone knew the D won most games; tebow just happened to be the QB.
More in the media than the fans.

You really fall for that?

No it isn't.

It’s right here on MHR. And if anyone dared to suggest that the Broncos won a game despite Tim Tebow, or that Denver would have lost a game if not for some freakish screw up by an opponent, well, they’re just haters. I know, because I’ve been called a hater (or an Orton fan boy) many times.

holding the ball toooooooooo long??

How long can tebow run from defense and not throw the ball over and over again?

there were many times where you could count to 5 and he had not thrown, or moved
Tebow has regressed

Very unsure in the pocket; missed several reads; didn’t throw to receivers he should have and locked on to receivers and threw to them when he should not have. Well below 50% passing; he’s not making many positive yards running; he’s getting sacked AND he’s fumbling when tackled. Defenses don’t take him seriously as a threat to pass.

The running game was AMAZING behind McGahee today. Props to Willis and the O-line, at least when they ran the ball. Play calling was WAY too conservative, however. Surreal. When you don’t let Tebow throw it sends the wrong message to him. He loses confidence and starts making bad decisions. They should have called some roll-outs when KC contained him in the pocket all those times. They needed to pass on first down in key situations.

I know I’ll be attacked again for stating the obvious, but EFX need to spend a high draft pick (1st or 2nd) on a real NFL QB, prospect. Maybe not trade up for Luck or Griffin, but they need somebody who can throw the effing ball.

i give Tebow a full offseason as starter before taking that gamble.

he’s shown in other games that he can pass. just needs good coaching.

and by good coaching...

i don’t mean it as a knock against mccoy or fox, just needs offseason of coaches working with him

I agree

want another season of Tebow using the draft to raise the quality of the rest of the roster, we still have Weber right? so we just need to pick up a veteran FA who has some wheels to fit in behind Tebow if he goes down.

Maybe in the 2nd, but there won’t be one suitable to take when we draft in the 1st.

Fox spouting nonsense on espn
Has to

Get real. We all have to spin company line in public.

with his head cocked, chin elevated in defiance
Can Elway activate himself for the playoffs?

this thought made me smile

Missing TE's

Can someone explain to me why we don’t use our TE’s?

Wrong

He threw to Fells once :-)

I have a friend who's Panthers fan

His biggest gripe against Fox was always that he doesn’t see the TE as a receiver position

Really think we could use them on short passes, since we aren't using that many WRs
They were blocking, because the Chiefs were stacking the box.
its been a problem all year. And a TE can still release from a block. Wouldn't matter as Tebow wouldn't throw there anyway
One has to wonder if playing in a spread offense has something to do with that.

That’s why I like guys who play in a pro-style offense in college, they seem to be able to spread the ball around more.

Hard to say what exactly is going on

He had Aaron Hernandez as a TE at Florida. I didn’t watch so I don’t know often he did go to him. All I know is he doesn’t seem to see the underneath guys often, and there doesn’t seem to be too many routes like that

That's my point, Chiefs did a nice play to a TE that blocked and then got open to Orton on a 3rd and 1 and it worked fine

Not saying that this type of play will win us games, but at least make the defenses start to thinking and worrying about something different than stack the box and sit there waiting for us

2 WOs in passing routes and everybody else blocking is not helping Tebow.

We need to get the TEs involved more. Our WOs are young and not have mastered the art of getting separation against NFL corners so we must give Tebow more targets to choose from. Tebow can scramble but McCoy stll feels the need to keep everybody in on pass pro.

www.bringbackDanReeves.com

just kidding

I would rather have McD as our OC over McCoy right now

Elway needs to hire someone for offense that has full autonomy on how to run it. McCoy’s playcalling is awful and Fox’s philosophy only works if everything goes the team’s way during the game.

Would love to see Norv Turner on the coaching staff
uh huh

You nailed it. Fox’s style is ultra-conservative. Not kicking the FG with 30 seconds left. Hell their kicker already missed one and your D is your strength and points are at a premium with the shackles you put on the offense! THat pissed me off. He plays not to lose which translates into scared. And it has taken a toll on the offense.

And I agree about McD. Terrible with personnel but he turned Orton into a solid QB, Lloyd into a big time deep threat. I suspect that he had great plans for Tebow…but we’ll never know. Unless we trade Tebow to the Rams hahahhaa. Just kidding…I love ya Timmie!!!!!!

I have a hard time deciding what to do there

56 yard FG is makeable for Prater for sure, but not automatic, and only about 25 yards out of FG range going the other way, with Bowe still in the game, which would make it a 2 possession game in a game that we are not passing well at all. If the game were 6-0, I would go for it for sure, because then another FG would tie it. But because it was 7-0, we would still need to score a TD or 2 more Fg’s even if we made it. I didn’t like either option to be honest. I thought the real mistake Fox made was to call the timeout on 3rd down. Hate to be a pessimist, but we were not getting a TD there, and we left too much time on the clock.

I'd love to see Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator.

Without the overhead of head coach or general manager, I think he will be an excellent offensive coordinator, just as he was in New England. And bring his brother back as quarterbacks coach. Unfortunately, that excellence will likely be in Kansas City next year.

Cant wait to see the next espn first take

The next argument between Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless should be highly entertaining

It'll be the same ol' song and dance

Smith will say Tebow is terrible. Bayless will agree that Tebow was terrible in this game, but will talk about Tebow turning the team around from a 1-4 doomed season and helped team make it to playoffs.

naw, Skip will blame the coaches and WR's
that too.

but he’s been doing that for a while also. But skip does have a point regarding our WRs.

I would rather go to the zoo

and watch monkeys fling poo at each other….

Denver Broncos 1983

Barely scraped into the playoffs at 9-7. And Elway at least had receivers who would catch the ball. I still believe the Broncos will win in the playoffs. I don’t know how far they will go but I believe they will win at least 2.

Even if I am proved wrong, I believe Tebow is good for your team because the things that he is lacking are things that can be TAUGHT. I think next year, with a full offseason being the number one QB, you will see an amazing improvement.

As it stands, all of you who are complaining about Tebow now, how many of you saw the Broncos in the playoffs at all before he started?

These guys are die hard fans here dude.

At least 75% or more have seen the Bronco in the play-offs and win the S.B. You’re not talking to a bunch of noob band wagoners, these guys know football.

What I meant by my statement

was that BEFORE Tebow took over as starter, NO ONE expected the Broncos to be in the playoffs at all. At best most figured “here’s your chance Tebow, sink or swim”.

All I personally wanted was for him to have a chance. He got it and, as a result, the TEAM played well enough, to win enough games, to make it into the playoffs. I think they’ll win at least one more. But I’m a diehard Tebow fan so no matter how bad it looks, I’m going to keep believing in his leadership abilities.

Good luck in the playoffs.

btw, I’m a dudette :-)

Oh, and if you all don't want him

I for one would be delighted to see him in New England throwing to Aaron Hernandez again. Grooming him to take over for Tommy B. Hmmmm I wonder if we could get Percy Harvin in on that too…. (just dreaming. yes I too hang out in LaLa Land sometimes)

I would take Hoyer straight up in a trade for Tebow
because Hoyer looks like the real deal to me, not because of disillusionment for Tebow
Sorry about that.

I guess that’s what happens when you assume:P

I've seen the Broncos in every playoff game, conference championship game, and superbowl they've ever been in.

This year’s team isn’t like any of them. But I’m still happy the Broncos made the playoffs, even “backing” into them, because you just never know what can happen from this point on. It’s a whole new ballgame.

remember Tebow had a decent games vs. Patriots and Vikings

I know it’s a terrible defenses, but the kid CAN throw. sometimes.

Do our Broncos deserve the playoffs?

Well let’s see. We finished better than all other AFC teams, so we’re in. Are we better or lucky?

Who cares? We are in and I for one am a fan first and am damn happy about it!!

Good news is...

Pittsburg beat Cleveland 13-9. We can do this. We can beat the Steelers.

Yeah, that's the right attitude!
Steelers are not what they were in the recent past.
I cant help but shake my head at all the Tebow fenceriders here

Many of the same folks who were crowing about how awesome TT was during the win streak and now throwing him under the bus…How pathetic…The Broncos are in the playoffs; the season continues….If you think the team has no chance next week because Tim is the QB, don’t watch and quit whining….

Who?

Been monitoring all the comments for some time. Don’t see anyone blaming Tebow for this loss. But I appreciate you defending the kid.

Hard to feel a sense of satisfaction after that game. I hope you enjoyed it.

I for one will celebrate being AFCW champs

If folks would’ve asked me that preseason, I’d be exctatic… and I am.

That said, Pitt is gonna maul us unless the OFF gets a whole lot less offensive… that was pathetic.

TT also just ensured that we’ll be drafting a QB or getting a solid FA to compete with him…. his leash will be short next year, but he’s earned an offseason to improve and 1st shot at failing, just like KO had this year.

Thanks Phyllis Rivers!

You’re the best.

Ok enuff blogging. Just putting any thought into that sad excuse of a game we just played is not worth it.

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